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Monday, October 24, 2005
100% Debt Relief: The Answer for Africa?
Who couldn’t agree with British Prime Minister Tony Blair and rock stars Bono and Geldolf that something has to be done about poverty and underdevelopment in Africa? A quick fix of debt relief and more foreign aid would make everyone feel better. But in this feel-good age, jumping on the debt relief and foreign aid bandstand to assuage Western guilt and right some historical wrongs is not the silver bullet for Africa the recent superstar hype promises.
Africa does not simply need another quick fix of more money and debt relief – it needs to enter the twenty-first century. There is an important jump in logic here: debt relief does not ensure better governance, accountability, transparency, a better standard of living, or more effective use of foreign aid. The track record suggests that it does the opposite: it allows less than democratic leaders to co-opt opposition, beef up militaries and Swiss Bank accounts, and court thoughts of being President-for-Life.
The celebrated Columbia University economist, Jeffrey Sachs, may insist that Africa’s problems are mainly due to economics, but this ignores the more serious political causes: bad government.
Africa is the only continent in the world to have become poorer since independence – even though Africa has received over $568 billion from 1960 to 2003 (in today’s dollars) to end poverty. Where has this money gone? Not in education, health care or infrastructural development – often more simply into unmarked Swiss bank accounts of self-described Presidents-for-life. One governance expert for the African Union contended that billions of dollars leave the continent each year for secret bank accounts in the West – with capital flight estimated to have reached $148 billion since the end of colonialism to 2003.
Some may argue that this is too pessimistic of an analysis – blaming Africa for all its woes and absolving the West of its responsibility in perpetuating the problem. But by forgiving debts and giving more foreign aid, we would simply be perpetuating the problems of the past. Africans are not stupid, untalented people – they are some of the most resourceful people in the world. Africa is not resource poor – it is simply poorly resource managed. Many Africans will tell you that what Africa needs is the promotion of trade not aid. Africa wants to be an equal partner, not a pathetic poor cousin to the rest of the world.
The late Albert Mukong, a respected Cameroonian human rights octogenarian activist once asked me, “Why do you people in the West continue to give money to our bad leaders?” “Why do you help keep them in power?” It may not the West’s responsibility to make African leaders accountable to their people -- only the African people themselves can make their leaders accountable. However, the West must do its best not to help keep corrupt, repressive leaders in power by funding them with more foreign aid, or relieving them of any responsibility for repaying debts that they may have incurred or former dictators before them.
Instead of giving African leaders a carte blanche, more effort needs to be made by foreign governments, international institutions, the African Union, and current African governments to freeze and recoup the assets of former dictators and their families that stole from their own people and to punish those that continue to rob the children of their future.
The G8 have proposed to immediately forgive the debts of 18 countries, 14 of which are African (Benin, Burkina Faso, Ethiopia, Ghana, Madagascar, Mali, Mauritania, Mozambique, Niger, Rwanda, Senegal, Tanzania, Uganda and Zambia). These countries have successfully completed the Highly Indebted Poor Countries (HIPC) initiative. This would free these African countries of an estimated $16.7 billion they owe international lenders, specifically the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and the African Development Bank. Nine other countries in Africa will be eligible for debt relief under the HIPC initiative in 12-18 months, including Cameroon, Chad, Democratic Republic of Congo, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea Bissau, Malawi, Sao Tome, Sierra Leone.
None of these countries are not democratic powerhouses. According to Freedom House (a non-profit organization that measures the level of freedom in the world by examining civil liberties and political rights) five of these countries are ranked “free” (Benin, Ghana, Mali, Sao Tome and Principle, and Senegal), five are ranked “not free” (Chad, Mauritania, Rwanda, Cameroon and the Democratic Republic of Congo) with the rest “partly free”. More disturbingly, most of these countries are at the bottom of Transparency International (a German-based non-governmental organization that ranks perceptions of corruption within various countries) list. So when push comes to shove, who will the leaders be accountable to? Certainly not their own people.
Consider one case study: Cameroon, in line for HIPC initiative relief in 12-18 months, has been lead by President Paul Biya for 23 years (1982-present). He was re-elected for another 7- year term in the 2004 presidential elections, which were fraught with voter irregularities and fraud. Cameroon also has the dubious distinction of being ranked the most corrupt country in the world two years in a row (1998, 1999) by Transparency International. Torture is widespread and systematic in Cameroon with government repression of minorities commonplace. Cameroon continues to suffer from high levels of corruption. Debt relief will simply further entrench this leader like other African leaders in line for one-hundred percent debt relief.
The U.S. Millennium Challenge Corporation established by the Bush administration, although off to a shaky start, has the right idea about what is necessary for sustainable poverty alleviation and development, namely good governance, with a focus on anti-corruption efforts, economic freedom, and investment in the African people through increased commitments to education and health care. Unless African leaders are held accountable for spending, there is no guarantee that any debt relief or aid will go to the neediest.
Do Africans a favor – not by dumping more aid into the pockets of their corrupt leaders – but by refusing to keep them in power by stocking their Swiss bank accounts. Fighting for more debt relief and foreign aid for Africa might make you feel better, but it won’t help the poorest of the poor. For that, accountable, representative and honest government needs to be promoted in Africa.
Below, we have 2 guest bloggers, Ron A., and Ashley I, who have some other suggestions about 100% debt relief. Dr. D.
Proponents of 100% debt relief for African countries have capitalized upon the massive public support for such a program which promises to facilitate economic growth and development in 3rd World countries by simply erasing the countries foreign debt. The rational underlying this call for total debt relief is that eradicating the debt of these impoverished countries will enable their governments to allocate a greater portion of their federal budget towards social welfare programs and the establishment of political and economic infrastructure which can attract foreign investment, thereby helping to foster economic growth. While ideally 100 % debt relief could provide African Governments with the necessary revenue to enact social and economic programs designed to facilitate growth, the persistence of structural and environmental obstacles which have impeded economic growth in the past remain likely to undermine opportunities for growth in the future. Total debt relief for African countries is not sufficient in and of itself to engender economic growth without accompanying changes in the political culture of African society.
One of the main problems associated with granting complete debt forgiveness to African countries is that it completely ignores one of the fundamental realities of governance on the continent; corruption. Studies have shown that approximately $148 billion, a figure equivalent to 25% of the continents annual GDP, are wasted on corrupt activities by African governments each year. Thus, the ultimate result of any program of debt forgiveness without conditionalties attached only serves to increase the funds available to these corrupt regimes. Until this culture of corruption is eradicated from the African continent, the effectiveness of any relief package is going to be undermined.
Many of the social and economic programs enacted will not be based upon the perceived benefits they will provide to the developmental process, but to the degree to which they solidify entrenched patron-client networks and develop new such networks. Not to mention the portion of the funds which will go to lining the leaders own pocket. One of the main arguments supporting multilateral debt relief is that since multilateral debt (which includes debt to IMF, WB, African Development Bank, etc) is generally financed on time, each dollar saved through forgiveness programs will be available for the government to use on welfare and development programs. However, believing that this will actually happen naively ignores the degree to which corruption dominates the political culture of the African continent.
Another argument commonly made in opposition to calls for total debt relief is that doing so creates a moral hazard. According to this line of reasoning, debt forgiveness is harmful because it sets a bad precedent which discourages creditors from lending to these countries again in the future. It also leaves the debtor country with the impression that any future money which the country borrows will not have to be paid back in full, thereby discouraging debtor countries from showing any degree of fiscal restraint. This is a particularly relevant point given the corrupt nature of many African regimes. The leaders of many African countries more are likely to divert the money which was intended for debt servicing through illegal channels than towards positive social and economic programs.
Moreover, based upon the socio-economic history of many of these African countries, it is safe to assume, even in a best-case scenario, that at least some of these countries are going to need additional funding in the future. If these countries prove unable to maintain a sense of credibility with the international lending community, these funds are unlikely to be made available in the future. African countries need to demonstrate to investors that they are capable of handling their own economic crisis' without depending upon third parties to bail them out.
Any program of 100% debt relief not only decreases the likelihood that such funding will be made available in the future, it also runs the risk of decreasing the actual amount of funds that are available. If lending institutions forgive the debts of third world countries, they are not only going to be less inclined to make future funds available to these countries, they are going to be less able to do so. Without the inflow of funds from debtor countries, multilateral credit institutions are not going to be able to make future loans available, either to African countries or to underdeveloped countries in other regions of the world.
Thus, when some underdeveloped county, or group of countries, runs into some sort of financial crisis, they are not going to have anyone to bail them out. The IMF and WB have enacted the HIPC program as means of reducing debt burdens to sustainable levels. These levels must remain sustainable not only so that debtor countries can afford to service these debts, but also so that lending institutions can continue to grant additional loans in the future.
The notion of 100% debt relief for Africa carries wide popular appeal because in principle, it sounds like a fair path to economic development. Apologists for colonial/neo-colonial exploitation of Africa see debt forgiveness as a way by which they can both clear their own conscience and help to pave the way for real economic growth on the African continent. However, a program of total debt forgiveness has unseen implications which make other alternative paths to African development far more attractive. Foremost of these would be the removal of subsides and external tariffs for agricultural goods among industrialized countries. Studies have suggested that the removal of government support/protection for agricultural goods among the developed countries would make a more significant impact on African development than all of the current aid programs combined. Reducing obstacles to trade makes more economic sense than a program of complete debt forgiveness. It provides African Governments with the ability to alleviate foreign debt through mechanisms that exist within the structure of the world economy, thereby maintaining, and actually improving their financial credibility and investors confidence, without incurring the risks of moral hazard or those associated with providing significant new funds to corrupt regimes.
Ron A.
Related Links:
http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/ib/2001/071001.htm
http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/develop/debt/2005/0708downside.htm
http://www.africafocus.org/docs05/dbt0501b.php
100% Debt Relief the Answer? NO!
Canceling the debt of underdeveloped and impoverished countries would only be a temporary solution to the problems that are plaguing Africa, because the 100% debt relief initiative does not address the root causes of the continent‚s problems. This summer, people from all around the world gathered together at the Live 8 concerts in hopes of reliving experiences from “the day that rock 'n' roll changed the world” 20 years earlier. The original Live Aid concert, in July 1985, brought artists together for two huge concerts in Philadelphia and London with a goal to rally worldwide attention, and gain support for African countries suffering from poverty and famine. Similarly, this year‚s Live 8 concert was also aimed at mobilizing concern for Africa, but endorsed a very different agenda than the first concert by shining light on the root causes of the continent‚s poverty, rather than asking for donations to alleviate it.
I n addition, it was no coincidence that this year‚s Live 8 concert was held just days before the leaders of the industrialized world met at the G8 summit in Scotland. The reason for the date of the concert was to promote the ”historic” change being made to the global agenda, 100% debt relief for Highly Indebted Poor Countries (HIPC) that qualify for debt cancellation. Under HIPC, countries that want these levels of debt cancellation are required to execute six years of structural adjustments. Unfortunately, in order to qualify for debt relief under HIPC, countries often have to do some things that are very harmful to them. For example, in order to gain HIPC status, Mozambique privatized its water system just as the World Bank had ordered. One year later, floods devastated the country and the French Firm, Saur, pulled out of the 15-year contract that it had entered into a year earlier. Much of the country was left beneath water, at an enormous cost. The World Bank also pushed Mozambique to raise user charges for health care. If people don‚t pay, they don‚t get service. This shows how dangerous liberal economics can be, and in this case, even fatal.
The G8 agreement enforces liberalization and privatization by saying that developing countries must combat corruption, increase growth and expansion in their private sectors, attract investment and eliminate barriers to both foreign and domestic private investment. Forcing countries to adopt a liberal economics system is as burdensome and difficult as it would be for them to have to pay back the debt that the agreement relieves them of. Subjecting these developing countries‚ fundamental services to the harshness of market forces will have very severe costs and consequences. In these countries, where people live on $1.00 a day or less, they cannot afford to pay what a commercial business would demand for these services.
While African countries should not be forced to partake in the international market, they should be given direct investments from the West to build hospitals and schools, and to construct industries. Handouts will not benefit Africa in the long run. In order to further development and end its poverty and misery, Africa will need true investments and substantial education. By benefiting businesses within Africa, they will cause industrial revolutions, growth in employment and an increase in revenues. By creating employment opportunities in Africa, rather than giving cash, the states and the citizens of underdeveloped countries are “being taught to fish” and with these new institutions they “will never go hungry”. G8 leaders need to review the 100% debt relief agreement and their trade policies and reconsider them so that they will produce business growth in Africa.
Debt and poverty is not the only issue troubling Africa. Solution to Africa‚s problems, as can be seen by looking at Ethiopia‚s grim record of human rights violations (the 1985 Live Aid concert raised over $100 million for the famine stricken country). G8 leaders should place just as much time and energy addressing human rights abuses as they are in their efforts to fight the countries‚ poverty and to cancel their debts. These human rights abuses account for a great deal of the miseries that plague the continent of Africa.
Granting African countries 100% debt relief would only solve the countries‚ problems for a temporary amount of time, if at all. In some cases, this initiative will even be damaging to the countries that strive to make themselves eligible for debt relief. G8 leaders need to reconstruct their plan in a way that addresses the root causes of the continent‚s poverty and misery in order to bring about its development and happiness.
Ashley L.
LINKS:
http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/develop/debt/2005/0708downside.htm
http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/develop/debt/2005/0704tyrrany.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4617397.stm
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29 comments:
Ron,
I agree with you that 100% debt relief is not the answer for African development. It sort of clears the road for a broken vehicle, doesn't really fix the problem. As you said, corruption is a HUGE factor that needs to be addressed.
I understand why it is a popular idea, but I don't understand why more people haven't been opposed to it due to it's obvious failure in addressing the other problems that have led to Africa's current situation.
Ashley L,
I also agree with your stress on the point that 100% debt relief doesn't address the root causes of Africa's problems. I thought it was interesting what you said about how countries "make" themselves eligible for the debt relief. That definately makes the 100% debt relief plan a poor choice for reconstruction and development.
Ron & Ashley,
Given what you both said against 100% debt relief,
do you think there is any situation that a country could be in that would warrant 100% debt relief?
I feel that although, 100% debt relief may not be ideal or plausible for the majority of african nations, it is necessary for some. The question i pose is this. . . How can you expect African nations to develope enough industrially to be able to compete internationally on the trade market if they are swamped by debt so great that they can't feed their own people, let alone strive economically?
Jeff L.
Jeff L, I think that if their debts are not fully cancelled, but instead, money is used by the west to build up business within Africa, there will be an increase in positive things (ie employment)and a decrease in poverty. Obsolving these countries of their debt does not mean that they will not remain corrupt or repeat their mistakes and build up the same amount of debt again. By helping these countries to build up business and their economy, we are giving them a way to repay these debts and also a way to keep capital in the countries. I realize that this is not an immediate solution to their problems but, unklike debt relief, it has the potential to be a permanent one.
I totally understand the rationale behind not forgiving 100% debt and for the most part accept most of the reasonings. I would like to, however, offer an interesting twist. Debt can be good and actually even advantageous. After all, if you look at how much debt the U.S. it's astounding that the economy hasn't collapsed, for various reasons. But I'm also recalling many years ago about what Alexander Hamilton, America's first Secretary of the Treasury, about warning against always having a clean balance. He espoused the notion that debt is good for a country because it does allow for economic growth. To make it more peronsonable, assume that you want to buy a car and it costs $50,000 but you don't quite have the money yet. So, what you do is that you borrow money from creditors and essentially you are in debt. BUT, you work even harder and harder to make sure you can pay off the debt. Take a restaurant entrepreneur...it's tough for an individual to have say 500,000 dollars to start a restaurant. So, they borrow...they hire workers, buy machines, buy items for the restaurant, etc...all of this capital injection into the economy is great. Yet...the individual is in debt but works to get out. So, for those reasons, 100% debt isn't the best way to go. But I wanted to offer a more "human" aspect to why debt relieft is bad.
Don,
I completely agree with you. The whole reason why people (or nations) borrow in the first place is because they want something that is too expensive to buy all at once. Just like when Americans go to buy a house. Let's say the house costs $200,000. The average person does not have enough money to pay the full price of the house upfront, so they must make a downpayment and invest in the future. The key here is that it is an investment--it could either help you or hurt you. There is no 100% assurance that your investment will pull through, but this is the risk that every person must take when borrowing money. In order to come out of debt, you must work hard and learn how to save.
As in the case of U.S. debt, yes, the number might seem very high, but that is because we have made an investment in our future, and we are working hard to pay it off.
The same goes for African debt. They incurred it, so they must learn how to get out of it. They took that risk when they borrowed the money, and they should have to pay it off.
The interest rates have compounded to extremely high levels, and if the IMF and WB want to be nice, they could possibly lower the interest rates (which will never happen). But in any event, 100% debt relief is not the answer. It will never teach the Africans to learn how to solve problems on their own and help themselves. If they continue to seek help from the international community, this will deepen their dependence and they will never be able to move forward.
--Kristy G
Matt,
The primary danger associated with complete debt forgivness is the precedent it establishes. I feel that if one country with "special" circumstances has its foreign debt erased, other countries will be inclined to make similar demands based upon their "special" circumstances. Ultimately I feel as though this would result in the increasing politiicization of the debt issue. Already it seems as though this may be becoming a problem in relation to Iraq. The Bush administration has become more receptive to the idea of total debt forgivness for Africa as a means of securing total debt forgivness for Iraq. In order to get Iraq's foreign debt erased, an issue Bush likely views as a "special" circumstance, he has been forced to take a more conciliatory approach towards total debt relief for the African continent as well.
Matt, I think it will always be better, both for the country with the incurred debt and for the world as a whole, if we do not obsolve them of 100% of their debt. If these countries are seen as special circumstances, I feel it would be better to offer them money that can be used to help their country (to build hospitals, schools, infrastructure, etc). This way we are helping the country to grow and to move away from "underdevelopment" but they still must learn to pay off the debts from the money that they have borrowed. And, we refrain from setting the precedent of cancelling all debt.
Here's just a random idea... How about we do 100% debt relief by year. Let me explain... If a particular government demonstrates that it is not corrupt and actually is trying to improve things but is being beat down by the massive, unexpected debt, we will forgive them of any debt payments that they would have to make for that year. It's not safe to say that all African governments suffering from massive debts are hideously corrupt, because there may be many that are not (I do not know enough about each particular government to know for certain). In order to be certain that the government isn't just tricking the world into relieving its debts, we (an international body) can do yearly audits. If they pass, we pay the debt payments for that year. If it's clear that they're not, we don't. If they have a good continuous record, maybe we could just forgive the entire debt and move on from there. That way, we can be sure that we're not being used.
It would of course require an enourmous commitment from the international community which will not likely occur, and it would cause some sovereignty issues, but it may be a more effective manner in obtaining the benefits of debt relief while decreasing the potential for misuse. Just a thought...
Carrying on from Thomas' suggestion of 'conditionality' when it comes to debt relief, I can see how that could be beneficial. Similar to how the IMF and WB imposed economic restrictions to get African nations to qualify for loans for economic reconstruction, this could possibly work for them to qualify for debt relief.
This debt relief conditionality could include demands like internationally monitored free elections and other political and social reforms that show some honest dedication by the leadership to deal with the country's problems.
I do think there is some truth to debt relief being a way for developed nations to free themselves of the guilt of their colonist ancestors. A stroke of a pen is definitely an 'easier' way of intervention rather than physically trying to help or using local resources to uplift the continent.
And I do believe debt relief can alleviate the financial burden that leaders may use as an excuse for the stagnant condition of their economies, but what happens after they are debt free?
Shivani made a good point-- "what happens after they are debt free?" If every African country is given 100% debt relief without having to meet specific economic standards first, they are still going to be left in the same situation. They are still going to be at an economic disadvantage, with declining terms of trade, compared to the rest of the world with little hope of ever being able to grow at a fast enough rate to catch up to the rest of the world. Yes, they will not have to worry about paying off interest on debts (that are, in some cases, about 90% of their GNP) every year. Instead, they will be able to use this money to invest in their people and to build up their economy.
But who says that the corrupt leaders are going to do that? Are they really going to use this money to invest in the people? For the most part, people in power in Africa get into politics to help themselves. If debt relief is given and there is no more interest to pay off, African leaders could just find ways to pocket the money that is saved from not having to pay interest, and it will never make it to the people. And isn't that the point of debt relief? To ultimately help the African people by taking strain off of their economy? If debt relief just gives officials another means to further suppress their own people, then the intention of debt relief- to help the people- is essentially lost.
Even if African leaders do properly use this saved money and decide to invest it in the people, they are still not learning the rules of investing. When people invest, they take on risk and many African countries took risks and lost. When people lose in investments and end up in debt, they need to learn how to work their way out of it. Africans never learned how to work their way out of debt, so if they go into debt again, they will be put in the same position. And are they going to ecpect to be relieved of debt once again? Is a cycle going to continue? If Africans do not learn how to get out of debt on their own, they will be taking on this viscious cycle and they will never be able to develop their countries.
--Kristy G
It’s impossible to know whether or not corrupt leaders would take money that was meant to pay off debts and finally invest it in their people. It would be extremely hard to force them to use that money for benevolent purposes. There is NO guarantee that the money won’t go into an individual’s pocket. That is why 100% debt relief is regarded as the wrong solution to Africa’s problems with development. Africans should not be relieved of all their debt because they will never learn how to do it themselves. It does perpetuate the cycle and that is why Africa’s problems should be dealt with through other means. Although debt relief seems to be a generous solution, it really is only a quick fix for much greater problems.
Ron,
I agree with the idea that if we start relieving some countries debt based on their "special" circumstances a huge opportunity for political favoritism opens up. This is entirely possible, but isn't everything in this world basically dictated by politics and favoritism anyway?
Ashley L,
I'm mixed with the idea of 100% debt relief. We do need to teach these countries how to pay off their debt, but I feel that if we dictate that idea to them, they will turn around and say "Hey, you guys have 7,000,000,000,000 you owe the world, why haven't you paid your debt off? Who are you to say we need to learn how to pay back debt!" We do need to contribute to the buildup of their infrastructure, as you said, but I think we also need to be sympathetic, maybe not 100%, but partially to their debt problem.
Kristy,
Many comments have been geared towards the idea of not relieving these countries of their debt because they need to "learn" how to dig themselves out of debt. I have two comments towards this sort of "big parent to little learning child" approach. First, most of these African countries simply don't make enough money each year to pay off their debt and build up their country at the same time, something has to give. Either they pay off their debt, or build up their country. Second, the US doesn't need to be the preaching choir in this debt lesson. Our debt is over 8 trillion and increasing an average of 1.63 billion a day. We can't even balance a budget.
Also, I think it is possible to force where the aid money goes. Simply demand that the leaders of the recipient countries to account for it on a regular basis to the global community.
Debt figures from: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
Kristy,
Many comments have been geared towards the idea of not relieving these countries of their debt because they need to "learn" how to dig themselves out of debt. I have two comments towards this sort of "big parent to little learning child" approach. First, most of these African countries simply don't make enough money each year to pay off their debt and build up their country at the same time, something has to give. Either they pay off their debt, or build up their country. Second, the US doesn't need to be the preaching choir in this debt lesson. Our debt is over 8 trillion and increasing an average of 1.63 billion a day. We can't even balance a budget.
Also, I think it is possible to force where the aid money goes. Simply demand that the leaders of the recipient countries to account for it on a regular basis to the global community.
Debt figures from: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
Matt,
The U.S. is not preaching to the choir when Americans believe that Africans should learn how to bring themselves out of debt. When people look at the figure of $1.7 trillion dollars, it appears to be a large number and for most countries, that number is way out of reach to pay off. But one must keep in mind that the U.S. owns almost 33% of the world's economy. Just one country owns one third of the world's economy. In 2004, the U.S.'s GDP (PPP) was $11.75 trillion. So to look at a number like $7,000,000,000,000....you must remember that the U.S. can generate $11,750,000,000,000 in a given year. Why buy a house for $20,000 because you have that much money when you could invest it into a $200,000 house? It is the same exact concept for the U.S. debt. The only difference between the U.S. and Africa debt is that the U.S. still has a stable economy that continues to grow, and therefore, a means for paying off the debt. When people borrow money, they do not pay it off all and once, and some people borrow more money if investment opportunities rise that will help the country in the long term. That is what investing is all about. So the debt number is getting bigger, but so is the U.S. economy. The U.S. knows how to invest and manage money, and the debt number, although seemingly high to most countries, is tiny compared to to the amount of money that the world's largest economy can generate. So Americans do know what they are talking about when they say that Africans need to learn how to bring themselves out of debt.
GDP figure from:
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html#Econ
--Kristy G
Kristy,
Although I agree with your argument, I feel that it is somewhat over optimistic. I believe that the US won't always be in such a position to make your argument. Yes, now, we own 1/3 of the world economy, and can easily argue that we "could" pay it off if we wanted to, but we don't. That is my point, we could, but we don't, and it's getting bigger by the day.
"politicians talk as though we're still living in the kind of economy we had 40 years ago, America has changed drastically — and not for the better." (1)
"We've been living in an anemic economy for quite some time, perhaps without fully realizing it." (2)
"We have no way of knowing when — or if — the American economy will return to its traditional growth. So we have to take care of ourselves." (3)
(1), (2) & (3) http://www.harrybrowne.org/articles/EconomicGrowth.htm
Matt, I think that in many cases, it is being unkind to countries to implement 100% debt relief. There are very few countries in Africa that would be able to successfuly implemet the SAP's that are required for eligibility of debt relief without destroying both their social structure, and what little economic structure they have. Thomas T poses an interesting idea....by implementing debt relief annually, governments would be forced to build business and infrastructure within their countries...if they did not spend money that they saved from debt relief to help their country grow socially, economically and politically, than the next year they could simply be denied the relief.
Ashley i:
Thomas T. has a good idea. His idea of forcing governements to build infrastructure in return for debt relief would work, in which case I would agree with debt relief.
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You re, I guess , probably very interested to know how one can make real money .
There is no initial capital needed You may start earning with as small sum of money as 20-100 dollars.
AimTrust is what you need
The company incorporates an offshore structure with advanced asset management technologies in production and delivery of pipes for oil and gas.
It is based in Panama with structures everywhere: In USA, Canada, Cyprus.
Do you want to become really rich in short time?
That`s your choice That`s what you wish in the long run!
I`m happy and lucky, I started to get income with the help of this company,
and I invite you to do the same. It`s all about how to select a proper partner utilizes your savings in a right way - that`s the AimTrust!.
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You may probably be very interested to know how one can make real money on investments.
There is no initial capital needed.
You may commense to get income with a money that usually goes
for daily food, that's 20-100 dollars.
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and I'm ready to share my secrets at my blog.
Please visit blog and send me private message to get the info.
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It's all about how to choose a correct partner who uses your money in a right way - that is incorporate it in real deals, and shares the profit with me.
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